This is so hard to do. It is like going to the dog pound and looking at all the puppies and knowing you can only have one. Though all the other guns you don’t pick don’t get put to sleep when you leave, but you get the idea.
There are so many really great guns out there. We can assume that I already have a lot of average guns and I wouldn’t want to use up my 5 on anything I already have.
1. The Quigly gun. Big bore. Heavy, slow moving bullet. Buffalo gun + Sniper .
2. The fully upgraded M1A with match grade everything.
3. The M134 mini gun with a lifetime supply of free ammo. While I can’t see any purpose to having this right now, I suspect that when I do really need one, it will be a hard to find item.
4. The HK MP5 in Full auto, with silencer.
5. I don’t know the brand name but I would like to get a really good custom made bolt action rifle in the .308 caliber for long range precision shooting.
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#5) Remington 700 modified to M-40 configuration by the Marine Corps armorers at Quantico.
I can't do that. 5 is not enough.
1. Ruger 10/22
2. Remington M700 .30-06
3. 3.5" 12 ga. Rem 887, 870 or Benelli Nova
4. AR-15 .223
5. .44 magnum Super Redhawk
You're killing me.
6. Ruger Mk III
7. Remington M700 .22-250
re: #3 - I had no idea how awesome a well crafted, custom built, finely tuned M1A was to shoot until I met someone who was an armorer for a military competition team and experienced what he built for himself. It feels like it is an extension of your mind, body, and soul.
#5 - If I have the M1A, I might want a little heftier caliber for the custom bold gun.
This is a gun post people! Get with it!
Your list:
#2 have it.
#4 shot it, don't like it that much.
#5 have it, well close, mine's a
7-08 beats the 308 and has a real long barrel life. Of course I have two handguns that can do the same thing it does.
My list:
I'd like:
#1. Custom 7saum custom config.
#2. 375 snipe tac, again custom config.
#3. Full Auto Thompson, because its cool, I know there are lots of other guns that are better.
#4 Sig Navy
#5 STI makes a great piston drive full auto M-4 clone with a 14 in barrel and a can. Shot one at last years ITRC, very fun and durable.
Res Ipsa
I'd love the FA Thompson.
I build M-14 type rifles (tiny insider tidbit, the M1A designation is Springfield Armory, Inc (not the military armory, the civilian company that bought the name), so no one else is allowed to call theirs an M1A. I have one Springfield that I have tuned and is lights out, one Chinese that I rebuilt using nothing but the receiver and the trigger group (forged receivers from China, cast from the USA until recently), and one forged American made receiver that I bought on sale and am waiting to have the money to build into a sniper. I don't know why people don't like this rifle but to each their own.
I'd also have #1 just because it's totally cool.
heresolong,
I love my M1A from Springfield. It has some national match parts in it, like the trigger group, but it isn't 100% national match. Its a decent shooter for a 308 gas gun. It will get the job done out to about 600 yards, after which it becomes hard for me to resolve targets through the sights and shoot well. I've never got around to putting a scope on it, so it might do well past 600. Do you use scopes on yours or just iron sights?
Res Ipsa
in my fantasy, the M1A stays as a high end iron-sights rifle. #5 can have high end optics.
I'd like the quigley sharps but I'd get it in 45-120. That way you can shoot a hole clean through the 6" slab of solid oak and still kill the bison on the other side.
120?
"they come in pints?"
I've always thought a .45 acp carbine is a more compact substitute for the "home defense" shotgun, but a full auto Thompson would be a bit over the top for me, and bulky. It would be fun for full auto mayhem at 50 yards shooting melons and water jugs.
I'm curious how the 7-08 "beats" .308.
I'm curious how the 7-08 "beats" .308.
1. Ballistic coefficient. 7mm bullets are very sleek.
2. The 7-08 is slightly more overbore than the .308. The expansion ration is higher.
A 7-08 can take the 162 A-max BC = .625 up to 2700 fps.
A .308 needs to go to at least 200 grains to get the same BC, and gets less than 2600 fps with it.
A .308 can get 2700 fps with the 175 Sierra Match King, but the BC is only .5
Recoil will be higher with the .308.
Thanks for the 7-08 info, I'll have to look into it further when I ever get the chance to build a custom, long range tack driver bolt gun. I can consistently shoot minute of zombie out to 600 yards using ammo with BC much worse than you describe for the 7-08 or .308, but if I ever need better performance than that I likely need more practice before acquiring better hardware.
Its always a complicated tradeoff.
Higher case capacity gets you more velocity, but lower barrel life.
Higher velocity gets you less wind drift for a given BC.
High BC bullets also get you less wind drift, at the cost of speed. Speed is less important, because drop is a constant. Drift is tough to dope.
For long range, BC trumps all.
Anyway, BC gets higher as caliber gets bigger. The .30 cal 230 grain Berger has a BC of .743. It comes at the cost of much more recoil.
You end up with trying to fight drift with higher speed lower BC bullets, or shooting heavies with high BC as fast as your tolerance for recoil will allow.
7MM bullets kind of fall into a sweet spot with regard to speed and kick, plus most 7mms are 9 twist which allows them to shoot the long bullets.
patrick kelly
I love my 7-08. If your looking into this, I'd also take a good hard look at the 6.5 x 47. I own two of these and they work great. By work great I mean I win 1000 yard matchs with them.
Now if you want a great gun that can get you into the 1760 club and that will kill anything you shoot out that far you should look at a 7 suam or a 375 snipe tac.
Max effective for the 7-08 and 675x47 is about 1100, max on the 7suam is about 1800. I've seen a snipetac ring steel at 3,000 but I can't speak to its ballistics.
Just to add to Giraffe's comment. I can get 2847 fps with a 168 berger out of my 7-08. The recoil is 11 ft lbs BEFORE I put a break on the rifle. So I get very good preformance and I can set and shoot at a dog town all day without beating the heck out of myself. I killed two lopes year before last with the rifle. One was 297 yards and one was 270 yards. First was a head shot and the second was a hart shot. Head shot fell where I hit it. Hart shot fell inside of 20 yards. Both shots went clean through. I placed 4th in an unknown distance field shoot with the rifle last year. That very sad showing of myself was due in large part to a condition known as shooter error.
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